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      One of my remarks about my brother's visit last December was how dangerously close he is still to his parents. I decided to stay a bit further from them because they like to point out and make their way of life as the right way of living. So if you aren't in their route, you are doing wrong. I improved my life quality a lot, learning that my decisions don't need their approval. I noticed that in my brother, I tried to question him as to why he was reporting many things in his life to our parents when he knew that the chance of disapproval was so great. I noticed that he still didn't notice how big this problem is in his life

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    For the first time in years we could talk a lot about our everything,including our parents [Free-for-use in FreePik]

      The first weird sign of that happening, I noticed while I was messaging my mom about something not related to my brother's trip. She then texted me that she saw in the flight app that my brother was still on the plane and it was a bit delayed. So that surprised me. My mom was in her city thousands of km from us and my brother sent her the flight number that he was coming to my home! Why? Was that needed? That was weird, but anyway, it doesn't matter for anything that, but it shows how he shares his life with them.

      During his stay, he was telling me how he was focused on changing careers all the steps and how he was expecting to change his life for the better since he was burned out of his current career. But at one moment he mentioned that he talked to our parents about that. He also said how our father was against that and criticized him. I took this moment to question him why he talked with them when that was a clear result to happen. He acted the same when I was around my 17s when I decided to go to Biology school and not to Engineering or Medicine.

      I told him my example, and he said that he remembered. I told him that after that I avoided to communicate plans in changing my life. And if I did, avoiding giving deep details. Yesterday I was talking to my parents, since my father is going to pass through a follow-up hospitalization. And the topic of my brother's visit arrived even not being the priority at the moment. During the talk, my mom questioned why my brother passed New Year's eve alone because his wife traveled to see her mom with the kids. She was starting to criticize my sister-in-law. Then I told her that it was my brother's decision, for his reasons he didn't want to go there. Then my mom switched the critical tone, saying that she doesn't agree that he does that since he is separating his family. I cut her saying that he has his reasons and we are not the right people to talk about it.

      I agree with her that if I were him I wouldn't do that, but my brother has some problems to solve by himself, and we aren't the ones who should judge that. So it isn't the best for us to talk about it and even with him. Part of my brother's mental health problems are my parents and we can give support but just trying to give him the paths to take isn't a concern to us. The best way to approach is to question some acts that maybe he hasn't realized yet, without saying that it is good or bad.

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      I noticed during his stay in my place that there were many topics that he wasn't ready to talk about my parents when I criticized them. He is very sensitive about this and didn't answer, so I just stopped to avoid problems. He sees everything as a big barrier and hopefully, he finds a way to get detached from this toxic relationship.

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      Uma das minhas observações sobre a visita do meu irmão em dezembro passado foi o quão perigosamente próximo ele ainda é dos pais. Decidi ficar um pouco mais longe deles porque eles gostam de apontar e fazer do seu modo de vida o modo certo de viver. Então, se você não está no caminho deles, você está fazendo errado. Melhorei muito minha qualidade de vida, aprendendo que minhas decisões não precisam da aprovação deles. Percebi que no meu irmão, tentei questioná-lo sobre o porquê de ele estar relatando muitas coisas em sua vida aos nossos pais quando ele sabia que a chance de desaprovação era tão grande. Notei que ele ainda não percebeu o quão grande é esse problema em sua vida

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      O primeiro sinal estranho disso acontecendo, percebi enquanto estava enviando mensagens para minha mãe sobre algo não relacionado à viagem do meu irmão. Ela então me mandou uma mensagem dizendo que viu no aplicativo de voo que meu irmão ainda estava no avião e que estava um pouco atrasado. Então isso me surpreendeu. Minha mãe estava na cidade dela a milhares de km de nós e meu irmão mandou o número do voo que ele estava vindo para minha casa! Por quê? Isso era necessário? Isso foi estranho, mas de qualquer forma, não importa para nada, mas mostra como ele compartilha sua vida com eles.

      Durante sua estadia, ele estava me contando como ele estava focado em mudar de carreira em todos os passos e como ele esperava mudar sua vida para melhor, já que ele estava esgotado de sua carreira atual. Mas em um momento ele mencionou que ele falou com nossos pais sobre isso. Ele também disse como nosso pai era contra isso e o criticou. Aproveitei esse momento para questioná-lo por que ele falou com eles quando isso era um resultado claro para acontecer. Ele agiu da mesma forma quando eu tinha cerca de 17 anos quando decidi ir para a faculdade de Biologia e não para Engenharia ou Medicina.

      Eu contei a ele meu exemplo, e ele disse que se lembrava. Eu disse a ele que depois disso evitei comunicar planos de mudar minha vida. E se o fizesse, evitaria dar detalhes profundos. Ontem eu estava conversando com meus pais, pois meu pai vai passar por uma internação de acompanhamento. E o assunto da visita do meu irmão chegou mesmo não sendo a prioridade no momento. Durante a conversa, minha mãe questionou o porquê do meu irmão ter passado o réveillon sozinho, já que a esposa dele viajou para ver a mãe dela com as crianças. Ela começou a criticar minha cunhada. Então eu disse a ela que foi uma decisão do meu irmão, que por motivos dele ele não queria ir para lá. Então minha mãe mudou o tom crítico, dizendo que não concorda que ele faça isso, já que está separando a família. Eu a cortei dizendo que ele tem os motivos dele e que não somos as pessoas certas para falar sobre isso.

      Eu concordo com ela que se eu fosse ele não faria isso, mas meu irmão tem alguns problemas para resolver sozinho, e não somos nós que devemos julgar isso. Então não é o melhor para nós falarmos sobre isso e nem com ele. Parte dos problemas de saúde mental do meu irmão são meus pais e podemos dar apoio, mas apenas tentar dar a ele os caminhos a seguir não é uma preocupação para nós. A melhor maneira de abordar é questionar alguns atos que talvez ele ainda não tenha percebido, sem dizer se é bom ou ruim.

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    Tomar alguma distância de relacionamentos tóxicos, incluindo os pais, é o melhor para você. [Grátis para uso no FreePik]

      Percebi durante sua estadia em minha casa que havia muitos tópicos sobre os quais ele não estava pronto para falar quando eu os criticava. Ele é muito sensível sobre isso e não respondeu, então parei para evitar problemas. Ele vê tudo como uma grande barreira e, esperançosamente, ele encontra uma maneira de se desligar desse relacionamento tóxico.

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      This is the one issue. While you may be ready to talk about it and prefer a solution, those affected would rather not talk about it and would prefer to just keep quiet. As long as they're yet to accept the reality, everything you say could as well be alien language to their ears. But then, what can you do? You can't force them to take your advice because then it makes you no different from who you're trying to take them away from.

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        you are right! that's why isn't good to spend energy on that unless the person is prepared to discuss about it. It is a pitty but we can't do anything in this situation, maybe questioning just to see if the person is ready is the right choice in the beginning.

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          Oh my God, I relate this and thank you for sharing about family issue. I have a lot that puzzle my life

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            All of us have it!

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            It depends in the age of the parents, old generations used to put a lot own mouth in your affairs, not like that modern ones don't, but before was way more... I guess you parents are like 70 years

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              nice guess! bullseye hahaha not sure how is one generation younger!

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                will have to ask your kids when they grow up 😂

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              I wish him luck with that toxic relationship... Family can be very complicated... !BBH !DOOK

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                It usually is hehehe! But yeah It is up to him to do the next steps,and if he wants to talk about it I can!

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                      Nossa, eu vi um pouco da minha mãe na sua. Querendo sempre está no controle e dar seus palpites... É complicado. A melhor solução mesmo é se afastar, de forma saudável claro, mas hoje em dia eu dou bem menos satisfação pra minha mãe, mesmo ela não parando de pedir.

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                                    Bzzzrrr, Ganhou minha atenção esse post! É como se seu irmão estivesse mais ligado à toxicidade dos pais do que a sua própria vida! Espero que ele perceba isso em breve, coisa boa! #hivebr

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